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. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of what we have now. kennedy's plan, enacted after his death, took the top marginal tax rate from 91% to 71% over a two-year period. lots of loopholes, but the growth argument, gdp rose by barely a percent during that time. isn't much when the economy was growing at a rate like china's, but the u.s. was at the time. they got a boost, but not much of one. ronald reagan's first big tax cut went into effect, and the economy did surge. economic growth went from 4.9% to north of 8%. year three, not so impressive. look at quarters, there were some drops. for perspective, today, the top marge call tax rate is 30%, not like are you at 70 or 90. can a r
. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of what we have now....
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. >> look at what mitt romney--look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. >> michael: i mean, as my friend cenk uygur would say, of course! the reagan defense. they've relyied on drawing a comparison to ronald reagan as well as one other president. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax-- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> if jack kennedy only knew how much he would come up in vice presidential debates i think paul ryan knew where that was going. i'm joined by erol lewis and thomas frank, thank you for sticking around and talking to us. you know in looking back at this it really taxes the way that they come up in these debates. the thing they're not talking about are mitt romney's taxes. the idea that they can look back and talk about taxes and ryan still getting caught with these lies and then the next day saying that's exactly what we meant to say. how does this work, errol. >> a promise has been made. a big broad promise has been made to splash taxes. it's estimated by a reasonable objective source that this could cost treasury 5 tril
. >> look at what mitt romney--look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. >> michael: i mean, as my friend cenk uygur would say, of course! the reagan defense. they've relyied on drawing a comparison to ronald reagan as well as one other president. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax-- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> if jack kennedy only knew how much he would come up in vice presidential debates i...
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>> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation in their voices and it's hard to say how this can be different. >> it's politics, my friend. talk taxes because i keep hearing this 20% across the board tax cut and then i hear the counterclaim, you can't pay for that. the math doesn't work. >> you can't make the math work. >> we have looked into this and the tax policy center says you can't make the math work. paul ryan's claim that you can cut it 20% across the board and keep it intact all of the while keeping it neutral and it says given the information available that we have about their plans is just not possible to cut that tax as much as
>> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation in their voices and it's hard to say...
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. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> "now's" terri o'neal on the romney ticket's disaster for women. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe abortion should remain legal be worried? >> david cay johnston on ryan's sixth study lie. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> and what's more disrespectful? lying to america or interrupting a guy who's lying to america? >> it was openly contemptuous and disrespectful. >> karen finney on the right wing freak-out over joe biden's knockout performance. >> ever felt that way where you just want to deck somebody? >> an obnoxious drunk. i think somewhere during the debate he took ritalin. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. what did we see? we witnessed a schooling on the issues by vice president joe biden last night. it really was the shot in the arm the democrats and the progressives were hoping for. after watching mitt romney get away with lie after lie
. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> "now's" terri o'neal on the romney ticket's disaster for women. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe abortion should remain legal be worried? >> david cay johnston on ryan's sixth study lie. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> and what's more disrespectful? lying to america or...
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ronald reagan signed on to one of the largest -- one of the largest tax increases -- >> that was a tax -- >> that's why -- >> tax reform -- >> kept it from exploding. >> worked out -- >> you have to have some notion of what you want to do. >> the issue here is that, you know, romney has not put any of the details out. i mean, that is true. he's thrown some ideas. he said he's going to balance the budget in seven to ten years while doing tax reform, while increasing defense spending, not touching medicare. i mean there's a lot of things that don't add up but because romney has not given the details doesn't give the president the right to make them up for him. i mean, he is not going to have a $5 trillion net tax cut. >> absolutely good at details -- >> that's not his plan. >> but i think to say there's a $5 trillion tax cut to be offset by mystery meat. you know, that's a correct statement. >> or -- >> there's a $5 trillion tax cut, well, but we don't know what it is he's going to do but what he proposed is a $5 trillion tax cut plus he says, trust me, i'll do something he different. th
ronald reagan signed on to one of the largest -- one of the largest tax increases -- >> that was a tax -- >> that's why -- >> tax reform -- >> kept it from exploding. >> worked out -- >> you have to have some notion of what you want to do. >> the issue here is that, you know, romney has not put any of the details out. i mean, that is true. he's thrown some ideas. he said he's going to balance the budget in seven to ten years while doing tax reform,...
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reagan did with tip o'neill with working across the aisle. governor romney has a proven record of being able to work across the aisle. >> chris: there are a lot of questions from independent people how do you pay for it and you refuse to say how you will pay for it? >> we will pay for it by eliminating deductions and loopholes and making sure for the middle class that protecting the home mortgage deduction and other important deductions for them but at the high end you would eliminate deductions and a lot of special interest loopholes that would allow you you to bring down the rate 20%. six different studies said this is -- >> chris: those studies are questionable. some of them are blogged. some from the aei which is hardly an independent group. >> these are credible sources and -- >> chris: one is from a blog from a guy who was a top advisor to george w. bush. these are hardly nonpartisan studies. >> if you look at harvard and aei and other studies they are are credible sources. >> chris: you wouldn't say that aee is a conservative think tan
reagan did with tip o'neill with working across the aisle. governor romney has a proven record of being able to work across the aisle. >> chris: there are a lot of questions from independent people how do you pay for it and you refuse to say how you will pay for it? >> we will pay for it by eliminating deductions and loopholes and making sure for the middle class that protecting the home mortgage deduction and other important deductions for them but at the high end you would...
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>> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible. last night, ryan blasted the white house. >> it took the presi
>> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when...
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>> reporter: when president ronald reagan uttered that one line. president obama hopes that one exception is the only one. >> that debate. what happened? >> coverager romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> it's not the first time i had a bad night. what is important is the fundamental of what this race is about haven't changed. >> karl rove wrote that the first debate will be seen as the decision point in this election. do we make too big a deal out of debates? or does mr. rove have a point? >> we make too big a deal in that it's hard to argue that debates test or reveal aptitudes that are pertinent to the performance of presidential duties. debates are now semiconstitutional events. you cannot become president without participating. clearly, in close elections, '60, '76, 2000, it's plausible to say they caused enough change to be the margin of difference. with regard to this year's, it's too soon to say whether the surge mitt romney got from his debate performance is enough or not. if it is durable, it will be because what happ
>> reporter: when president ronald reagan uttered that one line. president obama hopes that one exception is the only one. >> that debate. what happened? >> coverager romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> it's not the first time i had a bad night. what is important is the fundamental of what this race is about haven't changed. >> karl rove wrote that the first debate will be seen as the decision point in this election. do we make too big...
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think john kennedy of 1960, think ronald reagan in 1980. it's possibly that big because the president seemed to be on a glide path towards re-election and all of a sudden here comes the raging bull, mitt romney, out of the dark and they run for the safety exits instead of counterpunches and getting him hard. what happened to barack obama? i'm not certain. i don't know. but i know this, if he comes to the next two debates with the same demeanor and passive resistance, he's losing. >> you called it one of the worst performances of the time? >> one of the most inept performances by an incumbent president i've ever seen. i'm mystified. we do know these things about barack obama. we know he doesn't like to confront people. we know that -- chris: he doesn't like to fight with hillary clinton. >> he doesn't like to. he's really worried about appearing angry in public and that really isn't his natural demeanor but that was unilateral disarmament and was stunning. when mitt romney gives you an opening to talk about romney's accountant and doesn't sa
think john kennedy of 1960, think ronald reagan in 1980. it's possibly that big because the president seemed to be on a glide path towards re-election and all of a sudden here comes the raging bull, mitt romney, out of the dark and they run for the safety exits instead of counterpunches and getting him hard. what happened to barack obama? i'm not certain. i don't know. but i know this, if he comes to the next two debates with the same demeanor and passive resistance, he's losing. >> you...
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governor ronald reagan who became a two-term president, won the cold war, successful president. and congressman ryan, he has been the chairman of the budget committee. he's had to deal with a number of national security issues. when you are head of the budget committee, you're crafting a budget every year. those numbers are actually connected to real programs, real priorities in the realm of foreign policy, and i think -- look, he's not joe biden. he hasn't had decades in serving on the senate foreign relations committee and having participated in many debates over the years on a range of these issues, but he knows where he stands. he knows where he's anchored on these issues, and i think he'll be comfortable talking about that. >> the abortion issue has popped up. it may pop up tonight. i don't know. governor romney saying one thing to the des moines register editorial board. i know what the romney/ryan position is on abortion and about life. is there going to be an active attempt to pass more pro life legislation. >> no. i think that governor romney -- >> what message are you
governor ronald reagan who became a two-term president, won the cold war, successful president. and congressman ryan, he has been the chairman of the budget committee. he's had to deal with a number of national security issues. when you are head of the budget committee, you're crafting a budget every year. those numbers are actually connected to real programs, real priorities in the realm of foreign policy, and i think -- look, he's not joe biden. he hasn't had decades in serving on the senate...
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bush than to ronald reagan. in comparison, when you consider ronald reagan was actually willing to raise taxes and the spike in growth that you saw in the 1980s came after a big tax hike. what mitt romney is saying is, no, we can't make the wealthy pay more of their fair share. what we have to do is just cut taxes for everybody, cut tacks for corporations and by doing that by making sure that the people at the very top do better, somehow that will trickle down. what we know is that doesn't work. >> jim, on the campaign trail are you hearing a lot of chatter as well about the moderate mitt? we've heard bill clinton say, oh, the moderate mitt is back, oh -- it sort of comes off the president's post-debate thing about he is lying. that's not what he said. he has completely changed. a, has he completely changed, or have they, what we call putting emphasis on a different syllable? >> i put this to a romney aid viesor, and he pushed back on this. he said that the gvr is talking about bipartisanship more now that he ha
bush than to ronald reagan. in comparison, when you consider ronald reagan was actually willing to raise taxes and the spike in growth that you saw in the 1980s came after a big tax hike. what mitt romney is saying is, no, we can't make the wealthy pay more of their fair share. what we have to do is just cut taxes for everybody, cut tacks for corporations and by doing that by making sure that the people at the very top do better, somehow that will trickle down. what we know is that doesn't...
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we went back a few months ago and decided to answer the famous question that ronald reagan posed are you better off than four years ago. most people forget he followed that up with three other questions, is unemployment better, easier to buy things and is the u.s. more respected in the world today than it with you when jimmy carter took office. >> how did you answer those? >> we went and compiled -- the entire issue is charts, graphs, articles but for the respect in the world we went and polled cab drivers in different countries all over the world. >> the old cab driver poll. >> so we tried to sort of take that -- >> i thought we always made up those cab drivers. >> we found real ones and for the most part we are more respected in the world at least according to the cab drivers. >> there were a few light moments. this was sort of the irish coming out of both joe biden and paul ryan. >> this is a bunch of stuff. here's the deal -- >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff. >> it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it mularkey. >> they did -- their perso
we went back a few months ago and decided to answer the famous question that ronald reagan posed are you better off than four years ago. most people forget he followed that up with three other questions, is unemployment better, easier to buy things and is the u.s. more respected in the world today than it with you when jimmy carter took office. >> how did you answer those? >> we went and compiled -- the entire issue is charts, graphs, articles but for the respect in the world we...
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when ronald reagan came into office and looked at social security. he appointed a bipartisan commission and they studied it for two years. and in 1983, they moved forward to pass legislation to reform social security. so those are the kind of things that you can do. i've seen it when i was governor. when we brought democrats and republicans together, we did the infrastructure. we made the commitment to rebuild california. we did a lot of progress in reducing the greenhouse gases and making a commitment to 33% of renewables in the year 2020. and stem cell research. on and on. and as soon as in 2005 when i thought i could go off by myself, and it's my way or the highway, just like the republican party, we're going to grind it out, it failed miserably. so i learned first hand is that the only action is when both parties come together. >> former governor of california. you understand the demographic shifts in the country very well. the latino population not just in california but throughout the southwest, throughout the midwest and the rest of the countr
when ronald reagan came into office and looked at social security. he appointed a bipartisan commission and they studied it for two years. and in 1983, they moved forward to pass legislation to reform social security. so those are the kind of things that you can do. i've seen it when i was governor. when we brought democrats and republicans together, we did the infrastructure. we made the commitment to rebuild california. we did a lot of progress in reducing the greenhouse gases and making a...
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green, i paid for this microphone was one of ronald reagan's breakthrough moment. the weird moment with eastwood and an empty chair may be symbolic of the first debate. >> the issue of the taxes alone, the big knock against governor romney here is that he walks away from a $5 trillion tax cut plan. he assumes that tax cuts spur growth and make the math work. simpson bowles say his math doesn't add up. you either explode the deficit. raise the middle class tax cuts, something has to give. >> something has to give and we just heard mike say that maybe the thing that gives is mortgage interest deductions. the single most important thing to middle class american families. and that's going to be and we'll get to this later. that's going to be a challenge for paul ryan. i think that what we have experiencing right now and we just said it, is that this sort of style over substance is, is, i don't think going to overtake this race. i think you have a president who was trying to move the facts out. was facing a guy who, who he hadn't seen before. either mitt romney is compl
green, i paid for this microphone was one of ronald reagan's breakthrough moment. the weird moment with eastwood and an empty chair may be symbolic of the first debate. >> the issue of the taxes alone, the big knock against governor romney here is that he walks away from a $5 trillion tax cut plan. he assumes that tax cuts spur growth and make the math work. simpson bowles say his math doesn't add up. you either explode the deficit. raise the middle class tax cuts, something has to give....
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the reason he's going to win is this was the most-watched debate since 1980 when ronald reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. >> fox news is pulling out all the stops. check out the electoral prediction map fox trotted out today. look at the red states. they gave mitt romney solid democratic states like new mexico and pennsylvania. really? polls should be a snapshot of the current state of the race and there's no doubt mitt romney is benefitting from his debate performance last week. but over "the new york times," the forecast shows president obama still holds a 70% chance of winning the election. the percentage is back in line with the state of the race before the political conventions. president obama made some gains after the dnc. mitt romney erased those gains in the debate. so the race is back to where it was in august. eight years ago today, cnn poll after the first presidential poll put john kerry on top of george bush by one percentage point. the race is close. this should surprise no one in america. every vote is going to count. there's been bipartisan
the reason he's going to win is this was the most-watched debate since 1980 when ronald reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. >> fox news is pulling out all the stops. check out the electoral prediction map fox trotted out today. look at the red states. they gave mitt romney solid democratic states like new mexico and pennsylvania. really? polls should be a snapshot of the current state of the race and there's no doubt mitt romney is benefitting from his...
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president carter lost to ronald reagan, president reagan lost his first debate to robert mondale. president bush lost his first debate to bill clinton and ross perot. next president bush lost his first debate to john kerry. so when president obama lost his first debate last week to his challenger, mitt romney, that outcome was totally in keeping with the sad, sad incumbent president tradition of getting creamed in their first debate. but what hat means for tonight is that the democrats are looking for a solid performance to try to stop the republican momentum, to try to quash the poll imbalance that romney and ryan have been enjoying since the debate last week even if stephanie cutter tried to tell us a minute ago there was so much bounce. to that end, chuck todd joins us from the debate site with new polling information out today. chuck, what do we know today, chuck? >> i think we know, look, there has been some movement in romney's direction. now, some of it is, i would say, if you look at everything we've learned over the last few days, in our polling, in ohio, florida, and vir
president carter lost to ronald reagan, president reagan lost his first debate to robert mondale. president bush lost his first debate to bill clinton and ross perot. next president bush lost his first debate to john kerry. so when president obama lost his first debate last week to his challenger, mitt romney, that outcome was totally in keeping with the sad, sad incumbent president tradition of getting creamed in their first debate. but what hat means for tonight is that the democrats are...
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>> ronald reagan. >> office live very different styles. >> generational. >> you have a candidate from before the baby boom and a candidate from after the baby boom. ryan struck me like the nba who was so smart that he didn't need the powerpoint because he had mastered all the slides by memory where as biden was the corner bar keep or the opinionated uncle at the thanksgiving table. i thought he didn't go too far. i thought biden was more on message, more disciplined and very systematic in raising every issue the democrats wanted to hear raise. ryan's spreefus support for social security privatization. there were people who thought biden was a little on the har up offing side. >> i do. he was smiling, there were times when he did cross the line and when he would seem to be dismissive of paul ryan and i think that's a hard line. and particularly when you're in that split screen and i think biden smiled a little too much when he shouldn't have, and just seemed a little dismissive. >> we're going to continue this. i want to look ahead, the lessons learned from this first and only vice pre
>> ronald reagan. >> office live very different styles. >> generational. >> you have a candidate from before the baby boom and a candidate from after the baby boom. ryan struck me like the nba who was so smart that he didn't need the powerpoint because he had mastered all the slides by memory where as biden was the corner bar keep or the opinionated uncle at the thanksgiving table. i thought he didn't go too far. i thought biden was more on message, more disciplined and...
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reagan when he blew his first debate against walter mondale. this happened back in 1984. he seemed confused. some people, you know, thought elderly and confused. he really came back with -- in the second debate. here's what he said. >> and i want you to know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> ron, does biden need to throw one of those at ryan there? i mean, these guys are not the same age. >> game, set, match in 1984. no, it's interesting. this is the widest age gap we've had in a vice presidential debate. on the other hand, what's interesting, suzanne, you know, they both are sort of unusually early starting politicians. biden was elected to the senate at 29. paul ryan to the house at 28. they both kind of made their way in washington, but i think the contrast between them will be enormous. joe biden can't reverse this race by himself. the race has changed, i think, fundamentally. you had a slice of voters that were dissatisfied with
reagan when he blew his first debate against walter mondale. this happened back in 1984. he seemed confused. some people, you know, thought elderly and confused. he really came back with -- in the second debate. here's what he said. >> and i want you to know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> ron, does biden need to throw one of those at ryan there? i mean, these guys are...
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. >> ronald reagan. >> middle class got knock ond their heels. the great recession crushed them. they need help now. >> next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get wealthy people to pay their fair share. watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> greta: right now gets go to jamesville, wisconsin. his father and -- family and friends gathered to watch. so what did you think? the congressman's brother and sister-in-law, good evening to all of you. nice to see you. >> hi, greta. >> hi. >>. >> greta: tobin i've gotten word you just got off the phone and received first phone call and from your brother. what did he have to say? >> this is just like paul. he was interested in how our evening went. and he knew there are four 500 people here supporters with very, very loyal thoughts and he wanted to know our evening went and sure enough, a humble guy. he wanted feed back and i was very proud of him. very pleased with how he performed. >> greta: oakley did you get on the snon. >> no. i let tobin talk to his brother. >> greta: were you nervous oakley leading
. >> ronald reagan. >> middle class got knock ond their heels. the great recession crushed them. they need help now. >> next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get wealthy people to pay their fair share. watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> greta: right now gets go to jamesville, wisconsin. his father and -- family and friends gathered to watch. so what did you think? the congressman's brother and sister-in-law, good evening to all...
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ronald reagan did the same thing from the right. the middle in america governors. it's like a bell curve. most americans are in the middle. you have to appeal to the middle in order to win and then to governor effectively. >> bill, i love it when folks are honest. >> well, yes. he's appealed to the middle and the left and the right and everybody else, mitt romney has. if you want to talk about his position on abortion, he's gotten quite a few of those. >> i'm glad you brought that up. much has been made over that. in fact, the u.s. news and world report put out an excellent piece over the number of different views he's had over his political career. how can we discern what governor romney's actual view on abortion and women's rights, what his actual view is? >> we can't. we can't. they have changed. when he first took office as governor of massachusetts, he said he was pro choice. then he appears to have had a sincere conversion to the pro life side, which he so far has maintained, but he said he's not going to sponsor any legislation to stage the status quo on abo
ronald reagan did the same thing from the right. the middle in america governors. it's like a bell curve. most americans are in the middle. you have to appeal to the middle in order to win and then to governor effectively. >> bill, i love it when folks are honest. >> well, yes. he's appealed to the middle and the left and the right and everybody else, mitt romney has. if you want to talk about his position on abortion, he's gotten quite a few of those. >> i'm glad you brought...
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. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was all a twitter about that. the line generated 275 tweets a minute. kind of crazy. there's a noticeable reaction from the group of virginia undecided voters that i watched during the debate. you can see it blown up there at the bottom of the screen. but here's the problem. both kennedy and reagan were working in a different time and place, so to start with, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates were not even in the ballpark of what we're dealing with now. they make france like like a low tax regime. kennedy's plan took the rate to 70% over a two-year period. lots of loopholes, but the growth argument, gdp rose during that time, but wasn't much when the economy was growing at a rate like china's, so they got a boost, but not much. as for reagan, his first big tax cut went into effect in 1981 and reduced the rate to 50%. over the first two years, the economy did surge. that's impressive. year three though, not so impressive. today, the top marginal tax rate is at 30%. not like you're at 70
. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was all a twitter about that. the line generated 275 tweets a minute. kind of crazy. there's a noticeable reaction from the group of virginia undecided voters that i watched during the debate. you can see it blown up there at the bottom of the screen. but here's the problem. both kennedy and reagan were working in a different time and place, so to start with, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates were not even in the ballpark...
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reagan ran against carter, and there was only one debate that year. >> a week before the election. >> that was the first time in the last 100 years republicans took out an incumbent. the one that this debate in terms of viewership tied with was in 1992 when clinton ran against bush. again, when an incumbent was being taken out. the reason so many people tuned in is because they know obama's taking the country in the wrong direction. they know they're underemployed. i don't care what number the obama administration gets flashed up on a tv screen, they know they're out of work, and they wanted to see if they're comfortable with the challenger. not only were they comfortable, they'll keep being comfortable. the reason romney is going to keep doing very well in the debates is because you never get to see him. the media tells us, you know, gives us snippets, paraphrase, in other words what he was trying to say is. let's see what he said. >> sean: if you want to look at polls -- we're still 29 days out. four weeks in a campaign we all agree is an eternity, but pew, battleground, politico,
reagan ran against carter, and there was only one debate that year. >> a week before the election. >> that was the first time in the last 100 years republicans took out an incumbent. the one that this debate in terms of viewership tied with was in 1992 when clinton ran against bush. again, when an incumbent was being taken out. the reason so many people tuned in is because they know obama's taking the country in the wrong direction. they know they're underemployed. i don't care what...
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. >> i was there when ronald reagan -- >> 800 million billion -- >> i've been to afghanistan 20 times. >> i was there, man, million billion, it's the cripplingest of crippling sanctions, like, ever, man. that's where i would go. >> what touted me was the loving way paul was staring at joe while he was talking. made me think about what might he have been thinking when he's staring at paul with this loving gaze? i wondered maybe he might say tell me more about how you used to get legislation passed in the continental congress. >> nice. >> very grandfatherly. >> i'm not a funny person. my thought was -- >> oh, stop it. >> you're not intentionally funny. >> thank you. >> yes, you are. >> do the exact opposite. how about biden is presented as a calm, placid figure. >> yes. >> precisely worded sentences and -- that's all i got. >> and ryan comes out in his outfit from "time" magazine, his weight lifting magazine pumping iron. >> oh, man. the ha the hat backwards. >> that would be awesome. >> whatever happens it's going to be amazing. >> great ideas. >> i'm sure they have ideas of their own.
. >> i was there when ronald reagan -- >> 800 million billion -- >> i've been to afghanistan 20 times. >> i was there, man, million billion, it's the cripplingest of crippling sanctions, like, ever, man. that's where i would go. >> what touted me was the loving way paul was staring at joe while he was talking. made me think about what might he have been thinking when he's staring at paul with this loving gaze? i wondered maybe he might say tell me more about how...
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>> well, i've always thought that romney was somewhat in a position that ronald reagan was back in 1980, that people were looking for a change. carter had faced all of these difficulties, you know, the iranian hostage, double-digit misery index, in many respects worse situation than obama faces politically, but yet they were neck and neck going in. the people were looking for a reason to change. it was this irresponsible cowboy that the media had painted, really did he really qualify as a serious presidential candidate, and people saw him and decided that he did. i think to a certain extent that dynamic is playing out here. >> greta: one of the things that i thought hurt governor romney in these polls -- i mean, the polls were actually spectacular for governor romney in every way, except for a couple that caught my attention. one of them was that by 69 points to 7, a huge amount, swing voters say that president obama is the candidate who connects with ordinary americans. wing voters also prefer president obama on healthcare, medicare and foreign policy. not by those huge margins, but th
>> well, i've always thought that romney was somewhat in a position that ronald reagan was back in 1980, that people were looking for a change. carter had faced all of these difficulties, you know, the iranian hostage, double-digit misery index, in many respects worse situation than obama faces politically, but yet they were neck and neck going in. the people were looking for a reason to change. it was this irresponsible cowboy that the media had painted, really did he really qualify as a...
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that was ronald reagan, who won the election with a rate of 7.4%. so, the question is, can mr. obama win one like the giper or is the number still bad enough to doom his hopes? well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> "outfront" tonight, ali velshi, ethan and a former staff member for president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, daniel mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institut alan, the numbers sound good. are they? >> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage
that was ronald reagan, who won the election with a rate of 7.4%. so, the question is, can mr. obama win one like the giper or is the number still bad enough to doom his hopes? well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work....
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paul ryan behind closed doors at a fundraiser said he seemed a lot like ronald reagan and that's a person a lot of people in the republican party hope that he can replicate of success of. >> thank you for your time. let me bring you back in. why now? if this is something that seems to be resonating with voters at least at these rallies, why wait until 30 days out? why didn't we see this governor romney a month ago? >> i think part of it is that after the democratic convention, we saw a little bit of an uptick in optimism in the electorate. we saw the president's job approval numbers get better. so it's not just enough for republicans to say, things are going poorly, we have to make a change. it has to be mitt romney connecting on a personal level. convincing people that his vision for the next four years is better than the president's vision. just the we're off on the wrong track is not going to work under the new circumstances post convention. >> all right. we're going it take a quick break, "washington post" writer and rothenberg political report stick around. >>> more bad news for driv
paul ryan behind closed doors at a fundraiser said he seemed a lot like ronald reagan and that's a person a lot of people in the republican party hope that he can replicate of success of. >> thank you for your time. let me bring you back in. why now? if this is something that seems to be resonating with voters at least at these rallies, why wait until 30 days out? why didn't we see this governor romney a month ago? >> i think part of it is that after the democratic convention, we...